peter r creswell

[shipkeeper]

No parts have been removed from the Tadoussac

[Guest]

This is a little off subject here but, since we are talking about the Frontenac and the type of shape she is in, what about some of the other ships from the CSL fleet? The ones that I am referring to are the Salarium laid-up in Montreal, Spruceglen in Toronto and the CSL Tadoussac in Thunder Bay. Yes I know that Salarium carries lots of salt but, didn't she just have some internal steel work or something like that done on her not too long ago? From the outside at least, does Spruceglen and Salarium look okay? I have not seen the Spruceglen since 2014 and only saw her once and at the time, she was downbound loaded with grain and didn't look too bad to me outside at least. Salarium I cannot say as I have never ever seen her before other than when she was Nanticoke and that was back in November 2007 the last time I saw her as the Nanticoke! The CSL Tadoussac I last saw her in 2014 in October and she did not look too bad from the outside at least from what I could see.

According to some people here, the steering gear (or parts of it) has been taken out of the Tad. Possibly for the Frontenac? Supposedly the Tad is too expensive to run as well.

Last I saw of Spruceglen a month ago, she looked to be ok externally, other than the typical scratched off paint areas.

[Guest]

Tadoussac got a midbody replacement below the upper deck structure 15 years ago back when CSL did their first three forebody replacements before revisiting the concept later on with the Assiniboine to restore her to service. Given that rebuilding and other work done at that time, material condition wouldn't appear to be a factor for why she's sitting at the wall, possibly never to sail again.

Unless she has engine issues that can only be resolved with a costly repowering that is difficult to justify given economic conditions and the fact that she's now at the mid-point of her projected 30 year lifespan after rebuilding, she easily has another 15 years of reliable service left in her hull.

[Denny]

This is a little off subject here but, since we are talking about the Frontenac and the type of shape she is in, what about some of the other ships from the CSL fleet? The ones that I am referring to are the Salarium laid-up in Montreal, Spruceglen in Toronto and the CSL Tadoussac in Thunder Bay. Yes I know that Salarium carries lots of salt but, didn't she just have some internal steel work or something like that done on her not too long ago? From the outside at least, does Spruceglen and Salarium look okay? I have not seen the Spruceglen since 2014 and only saw her once and at the time, she was downbound loaded with grain and didn't look too bad to me outside at least. Salarium I cannot say as I have never ever seen her before other than when she was Nanticoke and that was back in November 2007 the last time I saw her as the Nanticoke! The CSL Tadoussac I last saw her in 2014 in October and she did not look too bad from the outside at least from what I could see.

[Wayne]

Frontenac is in great shape, especially for her age, both inside and out. CSL just doesn't have the work for her, with all the new ships.

[tugboathunter]

I believe she will only be running on one engine to Montreal.

[NiagaraMike]

Went by Port Colborne today.
There is a crew on Peter Cresswell , she is running so obviously she will depart shortly on her final run to Montreal.

[Guest]

There is a ship laying in Goderich harbour which is a grand old lady of the lakes. ( Frontenac) She has also carried all types of cargo including cement clinker but looks like new.

The problem is that Frontenac is also 50 years old and the hold and ballast tanks may not be in very good condition anymore. Though she looks splendid on the outside.

I will be paying a visit there (to Goderich) this summer, for the purpose of seeing the "Maritime Museum" inside the Shelter Bay wheelhouse and the Frontenac. Looking forward to this journey.

[cpfan]

Seems strange that a company would send a ship to the breakers . When only 19 years ago they spent 20 million on this ship. Other posts are saying a number of Algoma ships are really showing their age,sometimes a little paint goes a long way in making them look better. There is a ship laying in Goderich harbour which is a grand old lady of the lakes. ( Frontenac) She has also carried all types of cargo including cement clinker but looks like new.

I'm pretty sure that Algoma is not making these decisions based on what the outside looks like (which is all that most boatnerds can see) and which can be "repaired" with a bit of paint. I suspect that the status of the insides determines how much attention is paid to the outsides. For whatever reasons, Algoma has decide to invest in newer, more efficient ships and these are sounding the death knell for the older ones, nomatter how much boatnerds complain.

Steve

[Old sailer]

Seems strange that a company would send a ship to the breakers . When only 19 years ago they spent 20 million on this ship. Other posts are saying a number of Algoma ships are really showing their age,sometimes a little paint goes a long way in making them look better. There is a ship laying in Goderich harbour which is a grand old lady of the lakes. ( Frontenac) She has also carried all types of cargo including cement clinker but looks like new.

[guest]

The cress well will be moving down stream in the next week.58

[Port Colborne]

Yes she's beside IMS but observing, they have her anchors ashore like a ordinary winter layup. Living here I've never seen this of a waiting ship to be scraped. She's lit up at night as well.

[algowest]

All-
Not a done deal until she's docked at MRC as a dead ship. As of right now, she's wintering in Port Colborne like any other wintering ship.

[CF620]

Her crankshaft needs to be removed. That will take some time and shoreside power. No need to be hopeful. She's done.

[NiagaraMike]

I was just in Port Colbourne and checked out the various ships laid up.
Peter Cresswell is near the IMS scrap yard but she is still hooked up electrically and it looks like a bubbler around the prop.
The lights are on inside and out she does not exhibit the look of a scrapped boat as nothing appears to be taken off her.
When Algoma Progress arrived at the scrap yard she was shut down in short order and cleaned out of anything still useable to Algoma..

[lahey]

The Cresswell's AIS is showing "HARDESTWORKINGSHIP" right now.

[Middle rouge]

does anyone know when the Cresswell will be departing?

[TWilush]

The Cresswell has stopped against the wall just north of the scrapyard in PC.

She is loaded for Detroit, that doesn't really matter at this point.

[lahey]

The Cresswell has stopped against the wall just north of the scrapyard in PC.

[algowest]

Weather makes sense. Looks like she may have started to load cement clinker, stopped for weather, left the dock and then returned to complete loading this afternoon. May be the last ship to transit Canal upbound on her last complete passage of her career?
Thanks,
Andy