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by **Guest** » January 6, 2015, 5:15 pm

She just arrived at her dock and AIS is reporting 0.0 knots. The era of the steam powered Canadian lake freighter has now sadly reached its conclusion.

by **MattJ** » January 6, 2015, 5:14 pm

Montrealais arrived at her berth Montreal 17:20.

by **cpfan** » January 5, 2015, 9:26 am

Marine Traffic currently shows her upbound above Quebec City.

by **Guest** » January 5, 2015, 5:18 am

Is she done? MarineTraffic again isn't updating their listing of her, so her latest AIS data is nearly 4 hours old.

Her ETA was nearly twenty minutes ago, so I'm assuming that the era of the steam powered Canadian lake freighter has now been sadly concluded.

by **MattJ** » January 4, 2015, 6:07 pm

Montrealais departed Baie Comeau @ 17:30 upbound for Montreal layup

by **garbear** » January 4, 2015, 12:14 pm

Marinetraffic.com still shows her at Baie Comeau.

by **Guest** » January 4, 2015, 8:53 am

Anyone have any updates on her? Still unloading at Baie Comeau? The last ETA I saw, she was due to arrive in Montreal early tomorrow morning.

by **Guest** » December 28, 2014, 10:06 pm

She also got another nose job in 2009 (definitely a weld repair):

http://www.boatnerd.com/news/newsthumbs ... bs_893.htm

by **Ron Beaupre** » December 28, 2014, 9:34 pm

Please note the bow of MONTREALAIS had to be extensively rebuilt after the collision with ALGOBAY on 25 June, 1980. More welding took place during the repairs to her bow.

by **Paul A** » December 28, 2014, 9:22 pm

quote/That's why the john w brown went to Toledo to get work done on her hull, because nobody on the east coast would do it/quote>
Which is why the lakes is so exciting for us engineering lot because of rivets and steam. No salt water boats have rivets any longer or steam plants except the really big oar boats. I guess it gives the Coast Guard fits training the rotation of Guardspeople to give the five year inspection to the great lakes fleet.

by **Middle rouge** » December 28, 2014, 8:08 pm

Guest wrote:From a previous Boatnerd discussion thread:

"Last all riveted hull would be the Senator of Canada in 1957. Last riveted and welded hull would be the Algoway in 1972."

The use of rivets in new construction appears to have lasted a lot longer on the lakes than other places.

Riveting is still a preferred repair method in some cases. For example, weld repairs are verboten for in place crack or hole repairs on Erie Canal lock gates, riveted or bolted scab patches must be used in most cases.

That's why the john w brown went to Toledo to get work done on her hull, because nobody on the east coast would do it.

by **Guest** » December 28, 2014, 6:50 pm

From a previous Boatnerd discussion thread:

"Last all riveted hull would be the Senator of Canada in 1957. Last riveted and welded hull would be the Algoway in 1972."

The use of rivets in new construction appears to have lasted a lot longer on the lakes than other places.

Riveting is still a preferred repair method in some cases. For example, weld repairs are verboten for in place crack or hole repairs on Erie Canal lock gates, riveted or bolted scab patches must be used in most cases.

by **amateur operater** » December 28, 2014, 6:13 pm

The Algoma Montrealais passed Brockville at 1130 and blew a salute to those on shore. She passed through Iroquois at 1430. When she called in on the radio she said she was going to Montreal for fuel and needed a harbour pilot. She was then to go on to Baie Comeau to unload grain.
It was sad to see the last Canadian steam vessel leave the lakes. She moved quietly and serenely into the river. One by one the cabin forward lakers are disappearing and an era is ending.

by **Guest** » December 28, 2014, 5:22 pm

Algoma Montrealais down at Blockhouse Island
Brockville Ont.

Murray Blancher

by **Paul A** » December 28, 2014, 3:05 pm

Guest wrote:Am I nuts, or does her George T. Davie & Sons Ltd. built bow section have more riveted seams than her Vickers built stern section? I didn't realize some builders were still using that many rivets in 1961. Here are a couple of bow section closeups from her Dec 27 2014 downbound Welland Canal transit (sorry about the poor quality):

Just my steel industry opinion but the amount of rivets is proportional to the amount of stress the connection will endure. More on the bow than the stern. Rivet loading is governed by ASTM A307 (same as the bolts you buy at the hardware store).

by **Guest** » December 28, 2014, 1:14 am

Am I nuts, or does her George T. Davie & Sons Ltd. built bow section have more riveted seams than her Vickers built stern section? I didn't realize some builders were still using that many rivets in 1961. Here are a couple of bow section closeups from her Dec 27 2014 downbound Welland Canal transit (sorry about the poor quality):

by **MattJ** » December 26, 2014, 10:28 am

Was right on time with my estimate from TBay departure, under bridge @ 08:50.Sending in pictures I took today. So add 24 hrs to Port Colborne Piers. So a day transit of welland canal tomorrow. Get lots of photos

by **Denny** » December 26, 2014, 9:04 am

She is downbound on the St. Clair River now as I type this up in the Port Huron/Sarnia area at 9 A.M. on Friday, December 26th. Figure around 10 A.M. for St. Clair and about I would have to say five hours give or take for passage at Belle Isle in Detroit today. Weather is good and the sun is out shining brightly this morning. Should be a good day for photo ops of her. Better get all you can of her today boatnerds as it is the last and final time we will see a great, beautiful and classic laker slide by us! The last steamer on the Canadian side at least operating on the Great Lakes leaves us and is ready for a long sleep. 3L and 2S to the Algoma Montrealais!

by **Denny** » December 25, 2014, 11:35 pm

Watch and check out the Detroit Vessel Passage page tomorrow and that should give you some ETA's for her at Belle Isle in Detroit. Also be sure to check out the Port Huron/Vantage Point page as well for any ETA's on her in Port Huron tomorrow as well. I am sad to see the classy lady go but, thankful and grateful that I got to see her this season and in 2013 as well. So long and farewell to a very beautiful, classic vessel and long may she live in memories.

by **Middle rouge** » December 25, 2014, 2:55 pm

Any eta's for belle isle?

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