Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

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Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by tugboathunter » October 13, 2016, 7:41 pm

Sorry to get off-topic but is the Grand Marais in service in Thunder Bay? And I imagine it had to be hauled by truck?

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by William Lafferty » October 13, 2016, 11:23 am

Is that tug still around on lake Winnipeg? I was out that way in the 80 s and don t recall seeing her. There was a good sized tug called the Grand Marais that was operating on the lake at that time. Just curious.
Well, yes and no. The Granite Rock was laid up for the last time in 1972 in the Selkirk Slough at Winnipeg by Brown & Rutherford. I have a snapshot of it somewhere hauling a barge on Lake Winnipeg. I attach a photograph of how it looked the following year.

On 30 August 1978 its remains were burned off after the vessel's funnel and fore and aft compound steam engine (built by Doty at Goderich) were transported to the Marine Museum of Manitoba, as shown. It was composite construction, the steel framing built by Johnston, knocked down, and sent by rail to Winnipeg where it was reassembled and its wooden hull and cabins built.

The Russell-built Grand Marais was laid up in the slough in 2004. In 2012 it was sold to Pierre Gagne Contracting, Ltd., Thunder Bay, and brought there the following year.
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Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by Guest » October 12, 2016, 9:55 pm

William Lafferty wrote:
It's Granite Island Light..
Ha! Right. Granite Rock is the name of a tug Johnston Brothers built for Lake Winnipeg service, a particular favorite of mine.
Is that tug still around on lake Winnipeg? I was out that way in the 80 s and don t recall seeing her. There was a good sized tug called the Grand Marais that was operating on the lake at that time. Just curious.

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by hugh3 » October 12, 2016, 7:34 pm

Refraction.

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by LakeWatcher » October 12, 2016, 7:09 pm

Weren't there some pictures a few years back taken from the Michigan shoreline that showed the Chicago skyline appearing upside down, visible all the way across the lake due to some visual phenomenon? Possibly the same thing here.

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by Wawatam » October 12, 2016, 5:37 pm

Jared wrote:Is Granite Island below the curvature of the Earth from Marquette?
The rule of thumb I remember is, a 6ft. tall man, standing on a beach, level to the water, will see the horizon as being 3 miles out.

According to Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite_Island_(Michigan)

Granite island is about 12 miles off of Marquette and rises 60 feet above the surface of Lake Superior. My gut says that even with the height above the Lake it can't be seen from the beach under normal conditions (without any optical phenomenon).

Maybe someone from Marquette can confirm this...or someone with some calculation skills can do the math.....

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by Jared » October 12, 2016, 3:20 pm

Is Granite Island below the curvature of the Earth from Marquette?

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by Wawatam » October 12, 2016, 10:29 am

It’s the Granite Island Lighthouse.
The phenomenon is called ‘Fata Morgana’.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fata_Morgana_(mirage)

.....or maybe the ' Flying Dutchman' ?

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by William Lafferty » October 12, 2016, 9:58 am

It's Granite Island Light..
Ha! Right. Granite Rock is the name of a tug Johnston Brothers built for Lake Winnipeg service, a particular favorite of mine.

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by Guest » October 12, 2016, 8:26 am

William Lafferty wrote:To me it looks like a forward boom self unloader moving away from the camera, its shape elongated by the refraction of light through differing densities of air close to the water and above it, or the Granite Rock light suffering the same atmospheric anomalies.

Otherwise, it's definitely the Bannockburn!
It's Granite Island Light.....

Re: Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by William Lafferty » October 11, 2016, 10:31 pm

To me it looks like a forward boom self unloader moving away from the camera, its shape elongated by the refraction of light through differing densities of air close to the water and above it, or the Granite Rock light suffering the same atmospheric anomalies.

Otherwise, it's definitely the Bannockburn!

Bannockburn sighting off Marquette?

by Jared » October 11, 2016, 10:00 pm

Apparently this has made national headlines, though it does not appear to have the siloette of the Bannockburn.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/m ... 2/?ref=yfp

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