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by **NMGL** » July 30, 2018, 7:10 am

The National Museum of the Great Lakes has the original builder's plate for one of the Toledo Huletts on display in its maritime technology gallery. Unfortunately, the gallery was not large enough to install the entire hulett.

by **garbear** » July 29, 2018, 11:59 am

Guest in Toledo wrote:With all of the information added to this post, I have a few more pictures. Both Toledo hullet docks were built by railroads to replace outdated facilities located many miles upriver. The first picture is Torco (aka Lakefront and B&O) with the hullets in the #2 slip. The Torco duck/frog pond is behind the hullets and served as a mooring in busier times. This facility entered service in the spring of 1948 to replace old B&O docks located between today’s ADM grain dock and Toledo Casino. The second picture is CSX (aka Presque Isle and C&O) with the hullets in #1 slip. The CSX frog/mooring pond is in the far left of the image. The C&O railroad obtained many of Toledo’s early railroads, with upriver ore docks, through purchases and mergers. Today’s CSX facility replaced those early upriver ore docks. The third picture is the CSX hullets at a time that may be shortly before demolition.

Thanks for posting. By looking at the photos when we went into Toledo on the Clarke in the 70's we unloaded at the Lakefront dock. I remember it was a starboard side to the dock tie-up.

by **Guest in Toledo** » July 29, 2018, 9:20 am

With all of the information added to this post, I have a few more pictures. Both Toledo hullet docks were built by railroads to replace outdated facilities located many miles upriver. The first picture is Torco (aka Lakefront and B&O) with the hullets in the #2 slip. The Torco duck/frog pond is behind the hullets and served as a mooring in busier times. This facility entered service in the spring of 1948 to replace old B&O docks located between today’s ADM grain dock and Toledo Casino. The second picture is CSX (aka Presque Isle and C&O) with the hullets in #1 slip. The CSX frog/mooring pond is in the far left of the image. The C&O railroad obtained many of Toledo’s early railroads, with upriver ore docks, through purchases and mergers. Today’s CSX facility replaced those early upriver ore docks. The third picture is the CSX hullets at a time that may be shortly before demolition.

by **intermodalres** » July 28, 2018, 9:27 pm

The 17 ton machines were built in the 1910s at the CH&D dock on the river. In 1947 (or 46) they were moved to the new Lakefront dock. The 20ton hulett were built at that time.

by **Guest** » July 26, 2018, 8:48 pm

From the 1975 issue of Greenwood's Guide to Great Lakes Shipping.

Lakefront: (2) 20-ton Huletts, (2) 17-ton Huletts.

Presque Isle: (3) 17-ton Huletts.

by **Guest in Toledo** » July 26, 2018, 12:12 pm

This is a picture of all the Toledo hullets, @ 1961, with today’s CSX up close and today’s TORCO in the distance.

by **Guest** » July 26, 2018, 7:17 am

Thanks for the information! From looking at the Corps of Engineers chart from 1959 it is interesting as to how shallow Lake Erie is just outside of the port. That area must require almost constant dredging to maintain the shipping channel. Its interesting that this did not reduce Toledo's importance with the construction of larger ships with deeper drafts during the early 1900s.

by **garbear** » July 25, 2018, 11:59 pm

I remember going into Toledo 2-3 times on the Clarke in the 70's and unloading under the Huletts. Seems like they were right across the slip from the coal loader.

by **Guest** » July 25, 2018, 8:24 pm

Guest wrote:I don't know if this has been asked before, but did Toledo ever have hulett ore unloaders? I'm assuming that Torco had some at some point.

Check out this site.

http://www.clevelandmemory.org/glihc/ports/toledo.html

by **orangeshirt** » July 25, 2018, 8:17 pm

There was a set at the Lakefront Ore Dock, I believe along one side of the slip where the Valor is now. There was also a set at the C&O Ore Dock, which was Between the coal machine at C&O #4 and the gate/guard shack. At the old Interlake Iron Ore Dock, I believe they may have hade either Industrial Brownhoist unloaders or bridge cranes. I have worked on ships that were unloading at all three of these locations, but that was many, many years ago. I do remember Hullets at Lakefront and C&O but I'm 99.87% certain these wer the only two locations, at least during my time, 1971 to present.

by **Guest** » July 25, 2018, 8:14 pm

Toledo had/has lots of interesting shipping related infrastructure, including Huletts. Here's a listing:

http://www.clevelandmemory.org/glihc/ports/toledo.html

by **William Lafferty** » July 25, 2018, 7:47 pm

I believe there were seven altogether at two docks, B & O and C & O, beginning with two in 1911, and operating until about 1990. Here's the Edmund Fitzgerald at the C & O dock in 1963.

by **Denny** » July 25, 2018, 7:24 pm

Yes I believe they did have Huletts at one time. As you mentioned I think the Torco area may have had them and possibly along the Maumee River at close to anyway to where the Toledo Drydocks or the Ironhead Marine facility sits? I may be wrong on my locations and if I am, I apologize for that mistake but to answer your main question though I believe 100% that Toledo did indeed at one time have Hulett ore unloaders. Surely somebody from Toledo area will know more on this than I do. Hope that this information helps here and another spot where they may have had Huletts there would be likely at CSX #1 Slip which is across from the main coal loader as I recall from old photos that somewhere at the CSX Docks, they did once have Huletts there as well. Hope this helps on your question.

by **Guest** » July 25, 2018, 6:20 pm

I don't know if this has been asked before, but did Toledo ever have hulett ore unloaders? I'm assuming that Torco had some at some point.

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