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Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Ben » April 2, 2020, 1:59 pm

I’d take a copy!

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Jerry at Duluth » April 2, 2020, 10:12 am

Captain, I enjoyed you comments as to the BFC Charter Party contract. Every body signed the contract and walk out of the room an did what ever they wanted to do in spite of the contract. When Dudley Paquette did his book on the Fitz, he did it with Lake Superior Magazine and he was very happy with them and how they operated and paid. Amazon will demand a steep discount on the price and the right to return for full credit, any books that do not sell. Lake Superior will make the book available to any book store that wants it and they have a very large market within their magazine, to promote and sell the book. Good luck and I hiope to see the book soon.
Jerfry

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by BigRiver » April 1, 2020, 8:41 pm

For Know Your Ships, I am the publisher. I contract with a printer to print the books. That way I retain all rights. However I have to market and distribute the book myself.

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Guest » April 1, 2020, 7:46 pm

To add to my earlier comments don't get a publisher and a printer mixed up. A printer will often require money up front to produce a book that you will promote and sell. A publisher does that themselves and pays an author a royalty. I have been in the publishing business for over ten years and I have never heard of a legitimate publisher wanting to front payment from an author! Be careful as there are a lot of scammers out there!

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Guest » April 1, 2020, 2:24 pm

Lakercapt wrote:A company has offered to publish this book if I sign a contract that is as involved and covered by many clauses. Reminds me of the Baltic Exchange ship charter party. It will not be cheap and I have to put the sum upfront. My thoughts are is it worth my while?? or is this just an ego trip.
I would be extremely hesitiant about signing that agreement, especially with any publisher that wants you to provide money up front. It is relatively easy to self-publish through a couple of channels such as Createspace and Ingram Spark. I would look at those options and never go with a publisher in which an author has to pay.. What it sounds like is a service that wants to publish your book and have you pay for the all the cost associated with getting the book formatted and printed. As they are likely using some of the same printing channels I mentioned they will probably just list it online and leave at that while giving you a small portion of the profits. You also have to be careful on using someone's ISBN as they cannot be transferred. Unfortunately, there is not a large market for Great Lakes oriented books so the total number of copies sold will limit the profitability of your project. To sum it up, please be careful before entering into this agreement!

Perhaps a regional publisher could be of some help?

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Jon Paul » April 1, 2020, 1:29 pm

I shopped around and found 2 publishers who were willing to work with me for a reasonable amount. I offset some of the costs by formating and editing the book on Microsoft Publisher myself before submitting my book/manuscript.
My friend, the late Skip Gillham was also very helpful in sharing ideas on how to cut costs.
I was eventually able to get the cost down to around $6 per finished book and did my own sales and shipping.
Most publishers do require payment in advance.
I would encourage you Cap to pursue this. You have a unique perspective to share and unfortunately we are losing our links to that whole era of Great Lakes shipping.

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Lakercapt » April 1, 2020, 11:38 am

A company has offered to publish this book if I sign a contract that is as involved and covered by many clauses. Reminds me of the Baltic Exchange ship charter party. It will not be cheap and I have to put the sum upfront. My thoughts are is it worth my while??? or is this just an ego trip.

My starting to be a sailor

by Guest » March 29, 2020, 6:07 am

Lol I can imagine the shock of disbelief u guys got when the gulls ate them up,dam gulls! A good friend of mine who is no longer with us sailed with u on the rail head tunnelman talked highly of you

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Old Man » March 28, 2020, 9:34 pm

I still think it should be bound and published.

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Lakercapt » March 28, 2020, 10:14 am

A quick update to the revising of my stories.
My wife is a fastidious taskmaster and there have been 100 pages we have done so far (the text is New Times Roman at 12) so this is lots of writing. Maybe I should have let her read the posts prior to initially and saved these corrections !
I will keep you informed. This is about halfway.

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Dan » March 27, 2020, 6:44 pm

Would love a copy if you publish your stories.

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Lakercapt » March 26, 2020, 9:42 pm

Back to my days on a self unloader, the Algorail. We were to proceed to Thunder Bay to load a cargo of potash for Toledo. It was a trial load to be shipped from the old CN ore dock. This was to be the first on many to unitize the old facility if successful. I did not know it but too much handling or rough treatment breaks the grains of potash down and it is not so good at what is supposed to do.
It was dense fog when we got past the Welcome Islands and I was rather apprehensive about getting into the berth. It was a Saturday evening and the crew were all looking forward to a night in port without working and I must admit the idea appealed to me too. Faint hearth never won a fair lady so I decided to give it a try and approached the piers very slowly watching the radar which was not that great. Through the piers without seeing them and headed for the old high dock. I knew when we were getting close, but had no way of judging the speed as the fog was too dense even to see the water. A stoke of inspiration when I told the mate to take his Styrofoam coffee cup and throw it in the water and walk down the deck to keep it level with him. This gave me an idea of how fast we were moving. The old saying that speed kills are not always correct but I certainly did not wish to hit the concrete dock hard. Fortunately, we were just creeping and then the mate said he thought we were close as he could hear voices high up. Only moments later he said the dock was only a few feet away and we gracefully touched, swung the deck hands out and got the boat moored. I big relief and I think the crew were thankful we got in and they could get some R & R. The voice the mate heard were in fact the shore crew getting the system set up on the top of the dock. (for persons not familiar to this old and very efficient loading system it its the same still used at Marquette were the railroad cars are unloaded into hoppers which are high up and the shuts lowered into the holds and the gates opened and a shot of abut 300 tons is dropped)
Next day we departed and the fog which had cleared and we had a beautiful fall day on our way down Lake Superior. It was only clear for a little while and the fog set in again. Fortately all the boats about were obeying and keeping to the appropriate tracks. In the morning we woke to a very sad sight. During the night birds migrating south had got disoriented in the fog and the light of the boat had attracted then and they flew into the boom. Hundreds were killed by the strikes or succumbed to exhaustion I don’t know. Being I thought, kind I had the cadets collect as many of these still alive and put them in the windlass room with the intention of releasing them at the Soo. Approaching the locks, I asked the cadets to release all the survivors and when they did, to our horror, the ones which we saved were attacked by the seagulls and eaten. Such is nature I suppose!

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by pcolachap » March 26, 2020, 7:31 pm

you are my hero! Life at sea close up & thru the decades. with a mom who emigrated from Scotland & an Uncle Charlie who was a deep sea mate, i truly enjoyed your narrativesl More, please!!

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Ben Larson » March 26, 2020, 7:10 pm

I vote aye Yes

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by MarcE » March 26, 2020, 5:40 pm

I vote yes too!

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by JMarx » March 26, 2020, 3:45 pm

Yes! And could you add your new posts to the old thread so those that haven't read them can catch up? Thanks!

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Jerry at Duluth » March 26, 2020, 3:39 pm

Captain, of all the postings that I have seen since boatnerd started, your's were, without any doubt, the best that have been posted on the site. Every day, we all checked in to see the latest posting and were sad to see them end. I truly hope that you continue them and if you ever publish them in a book form, I will buy it to have and remember. You held us all spellbound for months and I hope that you will continue.
Jerry

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Wheelsman » March 26, 2020, 3:28 pm

In multiple languages: English: yes, German: ja, Spanish & Italian: si, Russian: da, Japanese: hai, Three Stooges: soitenly! Like I said in an earlier post: Gold. Please do!

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Guest » March 26, 2020, 2:50 pm

Yes please

Re: My starting to be a sailor

by Paul A » March 26, 2020, 1:51 pm

A big YES from me.

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