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Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » December 1, 2020, 5:42 pm

garbear wrote:I see the H. Lee White is upbound in the St. Lawrence River near Clayton, NY showing a Conneaut destination again.
Her AIS is now showing Calcite.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » December 1, 2020, 10:57 am

I see the H. Lee White is upbound in the St. Lawrence River near Clayton, NY showing a Conneaut destination again.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Denny » November 27, 2020, 8:20 am

No the H. Lee White did not haul or carry a backhaul cargo when they went to Quebec the first time earlier this year. Hope that this information helps.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Jon Paul » November 26, 2020, 11:44 pm

garbear wrote:H. Lee White loaded pellets in Conneaut and is heading for Quebec City. Her 2nd trip to Quebec City this season.
I just saw that in the Port Reports tonite. Did they backhaul a cargo last time and if so what?

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » November 26, 2020, 8:40 pm

H. Lee White loaded pellets in Conneaut and is heading for Quebec City. Her 2nd trip to Quebec City this season.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Jon Paul » October 29, 2020, 9:35 am

I see John D Leitch l9aded in Conneaut and is the Welland headed for QC

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » October 26, 2020, 4:39 pm

Haven't seen a Canadian laker load in Conneaut in a few weeks. Is that finally wrapping up?

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by ckoster » September 29, 2020, 10:45 pm

American Mariner went to Cleveland, not Quebec City.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Jon Paul » September 29, 2020, 5:46 pm

garbear wrote:
Jon Paul wrote:The Port Reports for 9/29 has American Mariner arriving in Conneaut from Buffalo. Are they loading pellets for QC delivery?
She unloaded wheat in Buffalo from Superior. This would be her 3rd pellet load from Conneaut down the Seaway this season.
Thanks garbear, I thought they had. There must be good profit in it to tie up one of their Buffalo wheat boats and most likely no back haul from QC.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » September 29, 2020, 10:57 am

Jon Paul wrote:The Port Reports for 9/29 has American Mariner arriving in Conneaut from Buffalo. Are they loading pellets for QC delivery?
She unloaded wheat in Buffalo from Superior. This would be her 3rd pellet load from Conneaut down the Seaway this season.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Jon Paul » September 29, 2020, 9:29 am

The Port Reports for 9/29 has American Mariner arriving in Conneaut from Buffalo. Are they loading pellets for QC delivery?

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » September 23, 2020, 7:30 am

Checked my 2019-2020 log book and both the CSL Niagara and the Rt. Hon. Paul J. Martin loaded 3 times each in Silver Bay and the Whitefish Bay loaded once. All for Quebec City.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » September 22, 2020, 10:05 pm

Jon Paul wrote:
garbear wrote:
Denny wrote:If I'm not mistaken and I hope not, I believe this could be the first load this season out of Silver Bay for Quebec? With the ore from Two Harbors being shipped down to Conneaut and then also being reloaded onto Canadian lakers for the trip to Quebec I have a few questions on this trade. With the CSL Assinbioine loading now from Silver Bay to Quebec one of my questions is "Could they just load ore at Silver Bay with the footers and then have then bring that ore down to Conneaut and then reload it onto a Canadian ship to take to Quebec?" Okay I not into the basics and details like you all are on the type of ore they use as I know its different type of ore they use no doubt from Silver Bay and Two Harbors but, just me but I'm thinking why not just load the ore into a footer at Silver Bay and then have it deliver to Conneaut and then reload into a Canadian ship for the trip to Quebec? Again just my two cents only on

I had posted about her being the first Canadian boat to load in Silver Bay in my Port Report. Probably different ore. Two Harbors it's Minntac that goes to Conneaut and Silver Bay would be Northshore pellets.
This possibly could indicate a new market for Northshore Pellets. There is no end user in QC so this must be a load destined for transhipment overseas.
Worldwide iron ore prices remain at a 5 yr high and maybe we will see more of these runs.
I'd have to check my log book from last year, but probably only 6-7 loads from Silver Bay to QC. I'll post tomorrow.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Jon Paul » September 22, 2020, 9:11 pm

garbear wrote:
Denny wrote:If I'm not mistaken and I hope not, I believe this could be the first load this season out of Silver Bay for Quebec? With the ore from Two Harbors being shipped down to Conneaut and then also being reloaded onto Canadian lakers for the trip to Quebec I have a few questions on this trade. With the CSL Assinbioine loading now from Silver Bay to Quebec one of my questions is "Could they just load ore at Silver Bay with the footers and then have then bring that ore down to Conneaut and then reload it onto a Canadian ship to take to Quebec?" Okay I not into the basics and details like you all are on the type of ore they use as I know its different type of ore they use no doubt from Silver Bay and Two Harbors but, just me but I'm thinking why not just load the ore into a footer at Silver Bay and then have it deliver to Conneaut and then reload into a Canadian ship for the trip to Quebec? Again just my two cents only on

I had posted about her being the first Canadian boat to load in Silver Bay in my Port Report. Probably different ore. Two Harbors it's Minntac that goes to Conneaut and Silver Bay would be Northshore pellets.
This possibly could indicate a new market for Northshore Pellets. There is no end user in QC so this must be a load destined for transhipment overseas.
Worldwide iron ore prices remain at a 5 yr high and maybe we will see more of these runs.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » September 22, 2020, 5:01 pm

Denny wrote:If I'm not mistaken and I hope not, I believe this could be the first load this season out of Silver Bay for Quebec? With the ore from Two Harbors being shipped down to Conneaut and then also being reloaded onto Canadian lakers for the trip to Quebec I have a few questions on this trade. With the CSL Assinbioine loading now from Silver Bay to Quebec one of my questions is "Could they just load ore at Silver Bay with the footers and then have then bring that ore down to Conneaut and then reload it onto a Canadian ship to take to Quebec?" Okay I not into the basics and details like you all are on the type of ore they use as I know its different type of ore they use no doubt from Silver Bay and Two Harbors but, just me but I'm thinking why not just load the ore into a footer at Silver Bay and then have it deliver to Conneaut and then reload into a Canadian ship for the trip to Quebec? Again just my two cents only on this.

I had posted about her being the first Canadian boat to load in Silver Bay in my Port Report. Probably different ore. Two Harbors it's Minntac that goes to Conneaut and Silver Bay would be Northshore pellets.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Denny » September 22, 2020, 12:47 pm

If I'm not mistaken and I hope not, I believe this could be the first load this season out of Silver Bay for Quebec? With the ore from Two Harbors being shipped down to Conneaut and then also being reloaded onto Canadian lakers for the trip to Quebec I have a few questions on this trade. With the CSL Assinbioine loading now from Silver Bay to Quebec one of my questions is "Could they just load ore at Silver Bay with the footers and then have then bring that ore down to Conneaut and then reload it onto a Canadian ship to take to Quebec?" Okay I not into the basics and details like you all are on the type of ore they use as I know its different type of ore they use no doubt from Silver Bay and Two Harbors but, just me but I'm thinking why not just load the ore into a footer at Silver Bay and then have it deliver to Conneaut and then reload into a Canadian ship for the trip to Quebec? Again just my two cents only on this.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Jon Paul » September 22, 2020, 6:01 am

garbear wrote:
Jon Paul wrote:Thanks for the update garbear. With the numbers I've crunched concerning the boats unloading in Conneaut it would seem that the majority of pellets being delivered are being reloaded into the boats going to QC.
Those are boats that would have loaded in Two Harbors instead of Conneaut. I've only got 6 boats to load in Two Harbors for Quebec City. They've had boats for the Soo, Nanticoke, and Hamilton, but that's it for QC.
Add into the mix that CSL Assiniboine just loaded in Silver Bay for QC.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » September 20, 2020, 9:52 pm

Jon Paul wrote:Thanks for the update garbear. With the numbers I've crunched concerning the boats unloading in Conneaut it would seem that the majority of pellets being delivered are being reloaded into the boats going to QC.
Those are boats that would have loaded in Two Harbors instead of Conneaut. I've only got 6 boats to load in Two Harbors for Quebec City. They've had boats for the Soo, Nanticoke, and Hamilton, but that's it for QC.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by Jon Paul » September 20, 2020, 9:24 pm

Thanks for the update garbear. With the numbers I've crunched concerning the boats unloading in Conneaut it would seem that the majority of pellets being delivered are being reloaded into the boats going to QC.

Re: Algoma Guardian - Conneaut

by garbear » September 18, 2020, 5:00 pm

Might be off by 1 or 2, but Conneaut will see it's 64th boat to load for Quebec City. The Algoma Transport is currently in the Seaway heading for Conneaut.

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