CSL scrap trips to Turkey

[Guest]

Mapleglen still in Quebec City for repairs I was told they blew the boiler which heats up the bunker enough to burn in the engine so they had to pump out the bunker and put in diesel that trip just got a lot more expensive for CSL

[algowest]

Agree with everyone's input on Govan's 3 salty-lakers design features. I'll also add these ships had closer frame spacing when compared to lakers, which would add to overall ship weight, reducing carrying capacity on the lakes. They had an ice belt near the waterline, to attain their Ice Class 3. Also these ships were strengthened for heavy cargoes, similar to the Fednav Lakes-capable ships of the same era.

[St Crapo]

Mapleglen is having engine troubles she stopped in Quebec City for repairs expected to be there for two days

Sounds to me like the ole girl is putting up a fight not wanting to go. Sure is sad seeing all these beautiful boats go that's for sure. It will be very sad when the Algorail, and Algoway make there final one way trips in the next couple of seasons or so. Just my thoughts. 3 long and 2 short Mapleglen and Birchglen. Thanks for the memories.
Dan McNeil

[lahey]

Mapleglen is having engine troubles she stopped in Quebec City for repairs expected to be there for two days

Probably the last time we'll ever see a great lakes ship with the name Mapleglen I'm sad to say.

[Guest]

Mapleglen is having engine troubles she stopped in Quebec City for repairs expected to be there for two days

[Rob]

For the Birchglen and her sisters, approximately what sort of sacrifice in capacity was necessary for their unrestricted ocean capabilities?

Obviously it couldn't of been too much since they've clearly been a great investment for their owners throughout the years, unlike the first attempt a few years earlier at a vessel that could economically serve on the lakes and trade on the oceans during the traditional winter layup period.

But I'm sure that strength to allow that still came at a cost on fresh water, or we'd of seen every Canadian laker built since then to higher standards to open up that option for their owners.

So these lakers had ocean going capability? Is that why she's going to her demise under her own power? It seems odd that a ship capable of still safely traversing the Atlantic Ocean would be scrapped.

[Guest]

I would assume that the Atlantic Erie will be next heading for scrap but I don't think she will make it all the way to Turkey from what I been hearing her hull is in bad shape I guess time will tell along with what the future holds for the rest of CSL aging fleet Pineglen Cedarglen Frontenac Tad rumour has it that CSL has two new straight backs coming in the spring we never heard this until the other day

[Guest]

Mapleglen heading down seaway for the final time she left Montreal at 0800 am for Turkey

[Lakercapt]

For the Birchglen and her sisters, approximately what sort of sacrifice in capacity was necessary for their unrestricted ocean capabilities?

Obviously it couldn't of been too much since they've clearly been a great investment for their owners throughout the years, unlike the first attempt a few years earlier at a vessel that could economically serve on the lakes and trade on the oceans during the traditional winter layup period.

But I'm sure that strength to allow that still came at a cost on fresh water, or we'd of seen every Canadian laker built since then to higher standards to open up that option for their owners.

We would often load over 25,00 tonnes of grain at the Lakehead at the seaway draft of 26 feet.

The use of high tensile steel on the gar-board and sheer strakes cut down on the amount of steel used in their construction.
The three boats were engined with Sulzer slow speed engines rated at 10600hp. Her engine was built in Switzerland and was supposedly the best of the three. They were four cylinder.
When ever they were overseas they caused quite a stir as their manoeuvering and unusual dimensions were strange and they could carry big loads at shallow drafts.
Very sad to see her go.
I piloted the then Canada Marquis the first trip up the Welland canal.

[Guest]

For the Birchglen and her sisters, approximately what sort of sacrifice in capacity was necessary for their unrestricted ocean capabilities?

Obviously it couldn't of been too much since they've clearly been a great investment for their owners throughout the years, unlike the first attempt a few years earlier at a vessel that could economically serve on the lakes and trade on the oceans during the traditional winter layup period.

But I'm sure that strength to allow that still came at a cost on fresh water, or we'd of seen every Canadian laker built since then to higher standards to open up that option for their owners.

[Lakercapt]

Birchglen underway for final trip. Destination listed Aliaga, Turkey, eta 10/17. Sad to see the first of the Govan 1983 ships leave for good. Have a good trip former Canada Marquis.

Was on board the trip over from Govan in 1983 and it is indeed sad to realise that her end Is now in sight. Guess that the time spent outside did not do the steelwork much good.

[Torontodave]

Any news on the cedarglen , is she done for the season

[Guest]

FYI.. Birchglen will pass Spruceglen around 2215 tonight. Spruceglen is docked at Sorel. Two longtime fleetmates will pass for the last time.

[Guest]

Birchglen underway for final trip. Destination listed Aliaga, Turkey, eta 10/17. Sad to see the first of the Govan 1983 ships leave for good. Have a good trip former Canada Marquis.

[Guest]

Birchglen is heading down the seaway as I type for the last time heading to Turkey

[Denny]

Thanks Guest for that information. So, you have just answered my question regarding the status of the Pineglen. I hope that she does come back out next season as I have "never" seen her downbound at least in her red hull color as Pineglen! It seems I always see her upbound at least in the red hull color but again, never downbound. Hopefully if she comes back out in 2016, I will see her downbound. One can only hope and dream! Thanks again for the updates and the information as well.

[lahey]

Birchglen leaves tomorrow mapleglen leaves on Saturday I also heard that the pineglen and the oakglen will not be going out for the grain rush this season we can only hope things will turn around next year

Weaaaaaaakk. Guess Pineglen will spend another winter in Toronto. :(

[Guest]

Birchglen leaves tomorrow mapleglen leaves on Saturday I also heard that the pineglen and the oakglen will not be going out for the grain rush this season we can only hope things will turn around next year

[Guest]

Crew was delayed last week they are called back today

[Denny]

Still laid-up in Montreal according to the Port of Montreal website. Hope that this helps.