Photo Collection

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pcolachap
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Hey Garbear, great pictures; keep them coming. I particularly like the one of the lay up fleet at Nicholson's. I would guess it was 76-77 because the Joe Thompson isn't there. It was in that time frame that she received her bow thruster in Cleveland. G&W installed it at the Brilliant Sign Co. dock in the Cuyahoga River. Any guess about the name of the self unloader tied up in front of the Falk? Mike
Greenshirt

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garbear wrote:Once again I want to thank everyone who have enjoyed the photos. Can't say I'll post everyday, but I'll see what I can do. A lot of the photos I haven't seen in 10-15 yrs., so some I don't even remember.
Keeps me busy and that's something I need. Thanks again.
Garbear, could you email me your credits for these photos so I can save them on my machine?

thelostfaith@gmail.com
garbear

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Once again I want to thank everyone who have enjoyed the photos. Can't say I'll post everyday, but I'll see what I can do. A lot of the photos I haven't seen in 10-15 yrs., so some I don't even remember.
Keeps me busy and that's something I need. Thanks again.
Darryl

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Enjoying the pictures. Really great one of the Girdler.
garbear

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Here are some more on a beautiful Monday in Duluth.
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Str. Tom Girdler downbound northern Lake Michigan. We were upbound hugging the Wisconsin shore because of weather.
Str. Tom Girdler downbound northern Lake Michigan. We were upbound hugging the Wisconsin shore because of weather.
Outbound Ludington from Dow Chemical.
Outbound Ludington from Dow Chemical.
Outbound Ludington.
Outbound Ludington.
At the stone dock, Conneaut. Waiting on the Clarke to finish unloading.
At the stone dock, Conneaut. Waiting on the Clarke to finish unloading.
Gulf Mackenzie, Sarnia.
Gulf Mackenzie, Sarnia.
V.W. Scully downbound St. Clair River.
V.W. Scully downbound St. Clair River.
Canadian Progress at Lambton.
Canadian Progress at Lambton.
James R. Barker downbound Lake Superior near Crisp Pt.
James R. Barker downbound Lake Superior near Crisp Pt.
Ecorse, Michigan.
Ecorse, Michigan.
Jones Island.
Jones Island.
Another shot of Jones Island.
Another shot of Jones Island.
garbear

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Guest wrote:The Joe Thompson really looked like she was rock n and rollin was it a storm ?
It was rough. Probably was a gale out of the NW. There were other boats in the area, but the Thompson was the closest to us.
Guest

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The Joe Thompson really looked like she was rock n and rollin was it a storm ?
Paul A
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Thanks garbear, it's really a joy seeing these boats with classic lines that aren't here anymore.
garbear

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A few more.
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Inbound for Indiana Harbor for Inland Steel, East Chicago.
Inbound for Indiana Harbor for Inland Steel, East Chicago.
Joseph L. Block upbound the Detroit River near Wyandotte.
Joseph L. Block upbound the Detroit River near Wyandotte.
Joe Block upbound Detroit River near Wyandotte.
Joe Block upbound Detroit River near Wyandotte.
Str. Benjamin F. Fairless, Lake Superior, near Devil's Island.
Str. Benjamin F. Fairless, Lake Superior, near Devil's Island.
Str. Joseph S. Young upbound near Marine City.
Str. Joseph S. Young upbound near Marine City.
Ernest T. Weir unloading at Zug Island.
Ernest T. Weir unloading at Zug Island.
Str. Joseph H. Thompson near Crisp Pt.
Str. Joseph H. Thompson near Crisp Pt.
Str. Joseph H. Thompson downbound Lake Superior near Crisp Point.
Str. Joseph H. Thompson downbound Lake Superior near Crisp Point.
M/V Myron C. Taylor in northern Lake Huron in a November snowstorm.
M/V Myron C. Taylor in northern Lake Huron in a November snowstorm.
M/V Charles E. Wilson downbound above the cut buoys.
M/V Charles E. Wilson downbound above the cut buoys.
McKee Sons departing Conneaut after loading coal.
McKee Sons departing Conneaut after loading coal.
Str. John Dykstra westbound on Lake Erie.
Str. John Dykstra westbound on Lake Erie.
Str. George M. Humphrey anchored in the Detroit River.
Str. George M. Humphrey anchored in the Detroit River.
garbear

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The photo of the Fitzgerald was taken as she was downbound on the St. Clair River.
garbear

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Add a few more.
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Last photo I took of the Fitzgerald. Fall of 1974.
Last photo I took of the Fitzgerald. Fall of 1974.
If you've read the "Vessel History" on the Bowling Green site, this is the hole that's mentioned. Had to use a hot water hose to get rid of all the ice in the forepeak.
If you've read the "Vessel History" on the Bowling Green site, this is the hole that's mentioned. Had to use a hot water hose to get rid of all the ice in the forepeak.
"G" tugs Nebraska, Delaware, and California with the Sylvania in the background. American Shipbuilding, Lorain.
"G" tugs Nebraska, Delaware, and California with the Sylvania in the background. American Shipbuilding, Lorain.
Phillip D. Block westbound in the Straits.
Phillip D. Block westbound in the Straits.
garbear

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A few more.
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Red Wing at Capitol elevator, Duluth.
Red Wing at Capitol elevator, Duluth.
H. Lee White upbound at the Lake Huron Cut buoys.
H. Lee White upbound at the Lake Huron Cut buoys.
Str. Ernest R. Breech upbound Lake Superior.
Str. Ernest R. Breech upbound Lake Superior.
Guest

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I also cannot find any other reference to the Khuozhnki Pakhomov being boycotted at Ludington in January of 1980. I did, however, find the following two news clippings of this vessel being boycotted at Philadelphia that same month. I have attached these to this post. The first is from the Cumberland News of Cumberland, Maryland dated January 10, 1980 with a picture of the vessel. The second is a write up from the Daily Globe from Ironwood, Michigan dated January 11, 1980 which mentions the ILA union refusing to unload the ship. The latter image is of poor quality so hopefully it will be readable in the format I had to reduce it too in order to upload to this forum.

Secondly, I doubt that any Russian freighter was in Ludington in January of 1980 unless it was trapped in the lakes when the Welland Canal and Seaway locks closed for the winter.

I believe this incident at Philadelphia may have been confused for some reason with a situation that developed that same year when the Soviet vessel Vasya Shishkovskiy arrived at Ludington on April 28, 1980, which resulted in a union picket of the vessel. In this case, the ship did not clear Ludington until May 5 with a Canadian pilot after American pilots reportedly refused to cross the picket line.
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William Lafferty
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Could that Russian freighter be the KHUDOZHNKI PAKHOMOV? It came to DOW in Ludington a few times. It was the vessel they refused to unload because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Boatnerd seems to be the only place that contends the Khuozhnki Pakhomov was boycotted in January 1980 at Ludington. I can find no evidence of that. It was the Vasya Shishkovskiy that created national headlines in April 1980 when it was stranded at Ludington.
Are you talking about the dock in the little inlet just wet of the Washington St bridge?
Yep. "Just wet of the Washington St bridge" may not be a typo, it appeared to be so shallow.
canalwatcher Barry

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First of all ... The vessel which was identified by Mr. Lafferty is the Tolya Komar as he indicated - script on stern is readable. The other two vessels that are mentioned by a guest are incorrectly identified - easily done with Russian script unless one can read the nameboard - only the Khudozhnik Kraynev (1st trip in 2002) went to Chicago with steel and Khudozhnik Toidze 1st trip into Seaway 1979) - no info available for this vessel. These are the only two Soviet ships beginning with this name that are listed as coming into the Seaway (info taken from Rene Beauchamp books "Seaway Ships 2002" and "58 Years of Seaway Salties 1959 to 2016") Hope this helps to clear up the unknowns. Barry Andersen
garbear

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Probably the reason I didn't write down the name of the Russian is because her name was in Russian. I think Mr. Lafferty might be right that it was the Tolya Komar. I know it received some press in the Manistee News Advocate when it was there. Working on trying to find some info.
garbear

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mccollochd wrote:Photo #108 from July 11 of the AmShip Yard in Lorain. The 1,000 footer under construction is the James Barker. In front of the Barker is the Walter Sterling (now Lee Tregurtha). At the time she was in Am Ship for lengthening from 730 to 806 feet.
I knew the Cliffs boat was the Sterling. Couldn't remember the 1000 footer that was being built. I know if I'd have done a little research I would have figured it out. We were in the shipyard at the time after running into the Mackinaw that was stopped in the ice in Whitefish.
Guest

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garbear wrote:
William Lafferty wrote:These photographs are great, especially the Ludington shots. That self-unloaders were able to get into that tiny bayou and unload at Abrahamson-Neirheim still amazes me.
Are you talking about the dock in the little inlet just wet of the Washington St bridge?
Guest

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garbear wrote:I'll finish off from the album I'm looking at.
Could that Russian freighter be the KHUDOZHNKI PAKHOMOV? It came to DOW in Ludington a few times. It was the vessel they refused to unload because of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
mccollochd
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Typo .... 826 feet. My fingers are faster than my brain.
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