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Re: scrap

Posted: July 4, 2012, 2:51 pm
by TWilush
I was under the impression it was going to IMS once the Leader was finished.

Re: scrap

Posted: July 4, 2012, 12:56 pm
by seadog
rumour has the algonorth going for scrap at the canadian sault

Re: scrap

Posted: July 3, 2012, 9:58 am
by Andrew
Is there still talk of Interlake either buying or chartering the Valor?

Re: scrap

Posted: July 3, 2012, 3:17 am
by ashland69
Denny wrote:I would have to say that another three possible candidates that could see the scrap torch would be the ASC steamers such as the American Fortitude, American Valor and American Victory. None of these steamers have operated since 2008 and I am sure that they would need a five year survey and lots of work done to be back in operation. Of the three steamers, the Victory I would say is the best candidate for scrap due to her age as her original hull was built in the 1940's during World War II. Yes, I know she has been modified to a great lakes ship in the 1960's but, she is getting up there in age though and steam powered parts are hard to find.
My opinion in the matter of the ASC boats is that I feel the American Valor will likely be converted to a barge; the American Fortitude will in all probability be sold to LLT in Canada; and, American Victory will probably be scrapped. That would leave the Adam E. Cornelius to sit in standby mode until her tonnage is required.

Re: scrap

Posted: July 2, 2012, 10:05 pm
by TWilush
Those vessels are Jones Act compliant, scrapping would not be a financially sound decision. They may be barged in the end, but scrapping seems unlikely.

Re: scrap

Posted: July 2, 2012, 9:39 pm
by Denny
I would have to say that another three possible candidates that could see the scrap torch would be the ASC steamers such as the American Fortitude, American Valor and American Victory. None of these steamers have operated since 2008 and I am sure that they would need a five year survey and lots of work done to be back in operation. Of the three steamers, the Victory I would say is the best candidate for scrap due to her age as her original hull was built in the 1940's during World War II. Yes, I know she has been modified to a great lakes ship in the 1960's but, she is getting up there in age though and steam powered parts are hard to find.

Re: scrap

Posted: July 2, 2012, 9:37 pm
by rburdick27
Would it be to Algoma's advantage to put some money into one of the smaller boats with a forward boom to visit smaller ports?

Re: scrap

Posted: July 2, 2012, 9:31 pm
by kieferk
i thought the algoway would be scapped soon, as algoma hasn't botherd to paint her.

Re: scrap

Posted: July 2, 2012, 9:01 pm
by Guest
CSL is only having two new straight deckers built and those won't have the capacity to replace four of their vessels.

Re: scrap

Posted: July 2, 2012, 8:50 pm
by Denny
There has been lots of talk and rumors that Algoma will probably get rid of the Algorail, Algoway, Algomarine and possibly Algosteel at some point. The Algocape and Gordon C. Leitch are probably all done in Montreal and the Algoma Provider has only a few years left in her along with maybe the Algoma Montrealais and also the Algoma Quebecois. I can see the Algoma Discovery, Guardian and the Spirit being scrapped as they were once salties and the new builds in China will more than likely replace those. CSL I am sure will possibly scrap the Mapleglen, Saguenay, Richelieu and Oakglen as these were also once salties and CSL is having self-unloaders and bulkers built in China much like Algoma is. So, to answer your question I would say that Algoma and CSL will be scrapping many.

scrap

Posted: July 2, 2012, 8:22 pm
by kieferk
witch vessels, in your opinion, will be retired in the next few years?