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Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 21, 2020, 9:18 am
by Jerry at Duluth
Alex, the boat was the Lyman C. Smith and the year was 1964, I dont remember the month but it was late summer. She was a good boat and nice engine room. Chief Engineer was J. Lesley Hall and the First assistant engineer was Joe Polczak, a really great guy.

Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 20, 2020, 6:22 pm
by Alex
Jerry, which boat was it?

Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 20, 2020, 11:43 am
by Jerry at Duluth
The source of the coal a DeTour was several places. It was brought in by boat. Some of it produced more clinkers than head. A bad load would puff up like popcorn and produce low heat. We even had to cut the engine back on the Smith once because the boilers could not provide enough steam and that was with three of us firing including the first engineer.
Jerry

Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 20, 2020, 2:12 am
by hugh3
The Bradley boats would bring it in.

Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 19, 2020, 7:22 pm
by John Sherwin
Where did the Coal at DeTour come from?

Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 19, 2020, 4:47 pm
by Guest
Thank you for the information.

Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 19, 2020, 10:01 am
by garbear
Here's the West Shore at USS South Works fueling the Avery.
http://www.mhsd.org/photogallery/westshore.jpg

Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 19, 2020, 8:09 am
by Mr Link
At one time there were coaling stations in almost every port. Some were large high speed affairs while others were just a crane and a clamshell at a coal dock. Some of the bigger coaling stations were Lime Island and Detour in the St. Marys River, Port Huron, Detroit and Windsor. Chicago and Buffalo had bunkering barges that were small coaling stations mounted on barges.

Here is a thread from the past that discussed coaling. As mentioned the big plants could do around 600 tons per hour, so 200 tons could be taken in 20 minutes. Much quicker than pumping liquid fuel on board.

http://newsearch.boatnerd.com/viewtopic ... ing#p10289

This second link is to an online copy of the 1936 Green's Maritime Directory for the Great Lakes. I did a sort on fuel, so each page number listed at the top should have a reference to fuel on it. Many are ads for fuel docks, some of which include pictures.

http://images.maritimehistoryofthegreat ... MHGL.66371

Re: coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 18, 2020, 9:19 pm
by hugh3
Used to take on @200 ton of coal at Detour once a trip (@ week)

coal as fuel for freighters

Posted: April 18, 2020, 5:21 pm
by stans
When coal was used as fuel for the freighters how much coal would be needed to move a cargo of ore from Duluth to Gary for example. Would ships need to refuel with coal one or more times. Where on the route would the coal stations be.