M/V Michipicoten

[Guest Jon Paul]

The Michipicoten will not sail with a crew unless it is surveyed and certified seaworthy by whomever is the controlling authority.

[Capt]

The shipyard may be excellent but they only do what the owners approve and the inspector require .

[Old Sailor]

Clearly, I would not post something without first hand knowledge if it was not reliable. But, clearly I get what one means about speculations etc..

[Guest]

2 quick questions
Would you sail on that ship across lake superior in november ? I did it for more than 40 years and would not do it on that ship .
Would you like to sign the certificate for that ship if you were the inspector for Transport Canada or ABS ?

News to me. I thought that Frasier was reputable in the industry?

If they're not a qualified outfit that does good work, no, I wouldn't sail on her.

[CSLFAN]

Clearly no one on this chat knows what is going on but they feel the need to comment anyway.....Come on folks, get good reliable information before you post it...And the next "victim" will be Joe Block

[Capt]

2 quick questions
Would you sail on that ship across lake superior in november ? I did it for more than 40 years and would not do it on that ship .
Would you like to sign the certificate for that ship if you were the inspector for Transport Canada or ABS ?

[Guest]

So the boat is fixed. Yet it sits there with its contracts being hauled by CSL.

Did someone forget to tell the company it’s ready to go?

Clearly more work is required or the paperwork is lost in the mail.

[guest]

I will try this one more time. The repairs are NOT done. They simply put some lite plating to close the bottom plating so the ship would float and removed from drydock. The boat will not sail until final repairs are complete and that will not happen until extensive testing is completed on the entire hull, In other words, they are going to go over that hull with a fine toothed comb. If the boat ever sails again it will not before next year and only after a lot of new steeland a lot dollars spent to install it. JERRY

Jerry, I believe you have outdated information. The bottom repairs were completed. There was no “light plating” used.

[Guest]

I don't know why Fraser Shipyards would lie about it.

[JERRY AT DULUTH]

I will try this one more time. The repairs are NOT done. They simply put some lite plating to close the bottom plating so the ship would float and removed from drydock. The boat will not sail until final repairs are complete and that will not happen until extensive testing is completed on the entire hull, In other words, they are going to go over that hull with a fine toothed comb. If the boat ever sails again it will not before next year and only after a lot of new steeland a lot dollars spent to install it. JERRY

[Guest]

38 days since she's been moved out of the dry dock. And how long did she sit in the DD after repairs were done. Weeks?

If that article is correct, what's the hold up?

I imagine it's something like this:

Gov. inspectors: "The repairs look good but, we've been looking around and want this, this and this fixed, and prove that all this other steel is safe and the same thing isn't going to happen again."

Company: "That's BS, we fixed the failed area and you let us sail before with all those other issues and they will be addressed this winter"

Gov. "That's nice, but you almost just sank this vessel and killed everyone on board, we would be crucified if we let you sail again and something terrible happens. If you want to sail this vessel, this is what you need to do."

Company: "That's ridiculous. We're not doing that."

[Guest]

38 days since she's been moved out of the dry dock. And how long did she sit in the DD after repairs were done. Weeks?

If that article is correct, what's the hold up?

[Guest]

Just my two cents worth but I thinks she’s probably done if indeed she needs a lot of repair. There are a lot of extra hulls Available to take her place as well as all of the other ships that have been filling in for her since she’s been down. Not like the ship has been missed as I’m sure with the slowdown in the economy that companies are more than happy to fill in for her and keep there ships busy with the extra cargo.

This begs to differ
https://www.wdio.com/front-page/top-sto ... Uk96Rkax7Q

[Mn bob]

Just my two cents worth but I thinks she’s probably done if indeed she needs a lot of repair. There are a lot of extra hulls Available to take her place as well as all of the other ships that have been filling in for her since she’s been down. Not like the ship has been missed as I’m sure with the slowdown in the economy that companies are more than happy to fill in for her and keep there ships busy with the extra cargo.

[Denny]

The Atlantic Huron has been very busy as of late doing runs up by the Soo area as far as ore runs into Algoma Steel with a coal trip or two in there also. I’m wondering then if she could be getting some of the Michipicoten’s loads and cargoes while a decision is then made on the future of the Michipicoten? My records show the Atlantic Huron last entering the Seaway about August 4 and they have not been out through the Seaway since that time as they’ve been confined to the Upper Great Lakes hauling ore pellets to Algoma Steel. We’ll see how long this lasts and goes on for?

[Geest]

I understand the company has chartered with CSL for some of their cargo, probably to replace what the Michipicoten isn't doing anymore. If that is the case, it certainly looks like she isn't coming off the dock anytime soon. If its true they are deferring for a 5-year inspection or the Transport Canada equivalent, it sure sounds like they will need the downtime to get the boat ready if it has any chance of passing.

[Old sailors]

Wow, The extent of metal fatigue the boat has is nothing like I have ever heard of in my 40 years in the industry. It will take a pile of money to sail her again. I could expand more but I won't

[Guest]

The amount of time that has passed they presumably could have got her fixed instead of waiting till winter, I assume they just wanted to use her this yr and then figure out if they wanted to do all that’s necessary for a 5yr!

[JERRY AT DULUTH]

the boat is not repaired. They put som light plating to close up what the had cut out so the boat would float and could be moved. She is not fit to sail and will not until extensive testing is done and required repairs are done and approved by transport canada.I
would not be surprised zat three million dollars or More. JERRY

[Guest]

The Michipicoten has been fixed and would be sailing now, but she is overdue for her 5-year inspection. Lower Lakes asked to hold off the 5-year inspection until the season is over, but that hasn’t been approved by Transport Canada. Assuming there is no change, she will likely get her inspection over the winter and sail in the spring.