Fort ships (WW2 Canadian-built)

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Bruno Boissonneault

Re: Fort ships (WW2 Canadian-built)

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A note from Appendix to Lloyd's Register for 1952 gives the Deadweight tonnage to be given in tons of 2240 lbs.

EASTWATER 10 320
EASTWAVE 10 173
FEDERAL VOYAGER 10 354
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William Lafferty
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Re: Fort ships (WW2 Canadian-built)

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Would you agree that these deadweights would be in Long Tons given the dates
Long tons have invariably been used in deadweight measurement by Lloyds and BC. Deadweight tonnage is a measurement provided the surveying authority from owners, according to Lloyds. Lloyds generally relies on state measurement of the more important gross and net tonnages used for toll and taxation purposes, which, of course, have no relation to avoirdupois but solely to cubic capacity.
TPOS

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Many thanks
TPS

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Thank you so much William Lafferty. Would you agree that these deadweights would be in Long Tons given the dates. I would assume so unless Canada used Short Tons to align with the U.S.
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Re: Fort ships (WW2 Canadian-built)

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As you have probably already discovered, deadweight tonnages are difficult to find, especially for vessels classed by Lloyds and the British Corporation earlier. Lloyds Register had no interest in publishing that tonnage until the late '50s, while Mitchell and Sawyer completely ignore all tonnage numbers in The Oceans, the Forts, and the Parks. Generally, as a group, the "Forts" were deemed around 10000 tons deadweight. I was able to find Fort Wrangell, as Lagos Ontario, measured 10776 tons deadweight, Fort Edmonton, as Federal Voyager, measured 10776 as well, and Fort Providence as Dugi Otok measured 10329. I have no idea if these were the original tonnages as built, but I doubt any extensive modification had been done to these old warhorses that would affect their original measurements.
Guest

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Found this in an old newspaper from 1948:
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TPS

Fort ships (WW2 Canadian-built)

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I am looking for information - specifically deadweght - for three "Fort" ships built at Burrards Vancouver during WW2. They are Fort Edmonton (later Federal Voyager), Fort Wrangell (later Eastwave) and Fort Providence (later Eastwater). Any information anyone has would be most appreciated.
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